Yong-Jun 9x9x9 應再次受關注...

Ricky.C

近日,我的Youtube受少部分外國魔友要求,要求我把Yong-Jun 9x9x9影片移除,否則把我的 WCA 及 YouTube帳號舉報,

當我知道這事後,我覺得非常震驚......

事源是因為Verdes看到這影片後,覺得非常震憤,並跟東南亞國家地區的V-CUBE代理提及,

然而,這代理就是MindStrat Puzzles,他們隨後到Yong-Jun 9x9x9影片回覆,要求我於24小時內把影片移除,否則採取行動。

以下是我跟他們交流後的一些回覆:

I am not sure that you understand the seriousness of this matter.
You are already doing what you say you are not.

The V-9 is an unreleased product and videos like these have the potential to destroy the niche market in its early stage.

Yes, this is what I said.

My name is Pantazis Houlis, and I am director of MindStrat Puzzles who have the rights of distribution of V-Cubes to the ASEAN region, as well as other sporadic countries.

I spoke with Konstantinos Verdes on the phone an hour ago, and he is very upset of this video. Please take it down if you respect him.

I will be coming to Hong Kong in January for the Toy Fair. We can meet and I can explain to you more. You need to understand that you are accidentally promoting it.

Thanks,

Pantazis

當我移除後.並提及 V6B 問題,他們亦回覆

Thanks for action.

The V6b is entering an already saturated market. It is still illegal,
but the knock off companies will never be able to profit from the
target countries where V-Cubes have already covered.

But the V-9 is not released yet, and it may take some time to be be
released and cover the markets. Right now, there are legal actions
against knock off manufacturers, but those cases will take time to
resolve. So we are trying to delay them from selling unreleased products.

I promise to inform Konstantinos about this, and that your intention was not
to support knock offs.


Pantazis

Hi again,

yes I know what you mean. They are expensive because they also cover
many other costs, such as patents and initial research and testing.
YJ just copied the known design, and never had to do any of the above,
so it is easy for them to make it cheap. Very unfair for Verdes.

It is very difficult to control the sales within China, but when people
outside China see this puzzle, many of them do not know that it is a
knock off, and this can be very bad (in a financial way) for Verdes.

Pantazis

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我看到這次事件,的確有點嚴重,Verdes花了至少10年去研究V結構,

昂貴的確是有它的原因,因為它包含了訐多版權費用及開發資金,

然而,半年後就被仿造,還要推出一個V-Cube從未發佈過的產品,

的確對Verdes造成一定的打擊。而我出於對Verdes的尊重,我最後移除了影片。

Yong-Jun的成功,就是他們懂得去改良,去迎合玩家的需求,並令產品耐用性提高,

可是V-CUBE呢?一直也沒有改進,依然也是柳釘設計,再一經時間的磨擦後,

彈簧便對其中心塊造成破壞,如V-CUBE仍然安於現狀,必定被人趕及.

儘管外國玩家怎樣說,仍有一部分人是口是心非,說自己不支持KO,

但自己卻買了。

Verdes說過有朝一日必定向Yong-Jun追究,各位魔友認為怎樣?

有人問及我關於是否支持Yong-Jun,我也無言以答,

論手感的話,Yong-Jun已經超越了V-CUBE,亦對速度有一定提升,

我們國人買魔方就是看看是否適合自己手感,外國人呢?

反而尊重版權來選擇一個適合自己的魔方。

[ 本帖最后由 CTS 于 2009-11-8 09:59 编辑 ]

Ricky.C

可是有外國人覺得..中國人証明了世界上有比7階更大的魔方

ifreedom

问题很复杂，不好懂！这里面的利益纠纷太多！

johnsonlaw

他們是有設計的，只是沒有推出
http://www.v-cubes.com/pr_more.php

raka

原帖由 Paracel_007 于 2009-11-8 11:02 发表
V的专利申请到了11阶
永骏不是说要出13阶吗？

V只是说其发明应为几何上的限制和目前的实际生产的可行性，应用到11阶为止。

学海也会晕船

永俊9阶虽然参考了很多V的设计，但毕竟V没有设计出一款V9，所以永俊是属于创新。

Zeon.C

我的看法　永骏也许会付巨额罚金　然后继续卖
verdes生气的可能是永骏打破了他"塑料9阶造不出来"
纯属玩笑

kexin_xiao

一言难尽啊

johnsonlaw

沒錯，就是這貼
http://bbs.mf8-china.com/viewthread.php?tid=41197

YJ這樣做，難道不怕有法律責任嗎？

Neo63

又记起前一阵日本的一个MOD，忘了叫什么了，反正挺有名的，镜面和Windmill就是他设计的，结果后来他的所有设计都很快就被中国仿造了，最后人家说以后再也不发明这些东西了。当时贪便宜，结果现在世界上少了很多puzzle。